Time To Say Goodbye

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A podcast about Asia, Asian America, and life during the Coronavirus pandemic, featuring Jay Caspian Kang.

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Recent Episodes
  • Are White Men Allowed to Write Novels with Andrew Boryga
    May 14, 2025 – 01:00:09
  • Pink Cadillacs and Pyramid Schemes with Bridget Read
    May 7, 2025 – 01:18:43
  • How to Think and Read in a World of AI with Zena Hitz
    May 1, 2025 – 01:26:43
  • Betting on the Pope and the Fragile Trump Coalition
    Apr 23, 2025 – 01:08:44
  • Corruption, Manufacturing, and the Future of the Country with Zephyr Teachout
    Apr 16, 2025 – 01:09:50
  • The Allure of Trad Factory Town and Tariff America
    Apr 9, 2025 – 01:16:08
  • A New Vision for the Democratic Party with Saikat Chakrabarti
    Apr 2, 2025 – 01:01:45
  • SIGNALGATE!
    Mar 26, 2025 – 01:16:48
  • It's Time for a Liberal Tea Party
    Mar 19, 2025 – 01:07:13
  • What We Got Wrong During the Pandemic with Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee
    Mar 12, 2025 – 01:16:47
  • The Democrats Play Dead and Trump's Ukraine Reality Show
    Mar 5, 2025 – 01:25:37
  • Elon's E-mail Phishing Scheme, the JFK files, and Leap Years
    Feb 26, 2025 – 01:33:54
  • The Future of America is in the Southwest with Kyle Paoletta
    Feb 19, 2025 – 01:11:34
  • The 2028 Celebrity President Draft and How to Think About DOGE
    Feb 12, 2025 – 01:17:03
  • Elon! Elon! Elon! with Ryan Mac
    Feb 5, 2025 – 01:00:37
  • DeepSeek's Sputnik Moment with Karen Hao
    Jan 29, 2025 – 57:27
  • Biden's Pardons, Trump's Speech, Elon's Upstaging, and Why the Libs Have Been So Quiet
    Jan 22, 2025 – 01:09:48
  • Phone Alienation, Body Optimization, and Make America Healthy Again with Maya Vinokour
    Jan 15, 2025 – 01:13:28
  • Are We Already Forgetting about January 6th? with John Ganz
    Jan 8, 2025 – 01:33:55
  • H1B, Vivek and the Big Fight in the Right
    Jan 2, 2025 – 01:13:23
  • The "Groups" and the Non Profit Industrial Complex with Dr. Claire Dunning
    Dec 18, 2024 – 01:14:18
  • What just happened in Korea? with Max Kim
    Dec 11, 2024 – 01:17:05
  • Is the Online Gambling Bubble about to Bust? with David Hill
    Dec 4, 2024 – 01:11:01
  • Who Gets to Be a Populist? with Nancy Fraser
    Nov 27, 2024 – 57:31
  • A History of Trans Activism with Jamie Lauren Keiles
    Nov 20, 2024 – 01:20:42
  • Do we really need polls?
    Nov 13, 2024 – 01:18:09
  • Can We Ever Trust the Polls Again?
    Nov 13, 2024 – 01:18:09
  • Emergency Pod: Oh No What Just Happened
    Nov 6, 2024 – 01:05:05
  • Six Days until The Election Special!
    Oct 30, 2024 – 01:10:20
  • Why Can't Kids Read Anymore with Susannah Grossman
    Oct 23, 2024 – 01:21:34
  • Kamala's Plan for Black Men and We Try to Be Positive
    Oct 16, 2024 – 01:11:22
  • Black Quarterbacks and the Meritocracy with Louis Moore
    Oct 9, 2024 – 01:00:01
  • The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates and What Writing is For with Jazmine Hughes
    Oct 2, 2024 – 01:10:27
  • RIP Fredric Jameson and some takes on the whole RFK - Nuzzi thing
    Sep 25, 2024 – 01:01:37
  • Trump's Horrible Lies about Haitian Residents in Springfield, Ohio and More Assassination Talk
    Sep 18, 2024 – 01:03:41
  • Do We Like Living in DataWorld and iPhones and the End of History with Ben Recht and Leif Weatherby
    Sep 11, 2024 – 01:22:54
  • BACK TO SCHOOL: MIT's disappearing Black student population, Affirmative Action, and sea changes in higher ed
    Sep 4, 2024 – 01:11:28
  • Kamala's Big Speech, RFK as Shadow Veep, and Panic at Pomona
    Aug 28, 2024 – 01:21:25
  • AOC, Convention Night 1, and the Future of the Left with Matt Karp
    Aug 21, 2024 – 01:27:35
  • Can Harris and Walz Capture the Rural Vote? A conversation with Paolo Cremidis.
    Aug 14, 2024 – 01:00:43
  • Walz Time, RFK's Bear Episode, and what Solidarity Means with Astra Taylor
    Aug 7, 2024 – 01:21:12
  • Two Black Dudes and a Korean Dude on White Dudes for Harris
    Jul 31, 2024 – 01:12:17
  • Joe Rogan for Veep and What's Going on with JD Vance
    Jul 24, 2024 – 01:03:19
  • The Trump Assassination Attempt: Five scenarios for what might happen now
    Jul 17, 2024 – 55:24
  • Should Biden stay or should he go? Jay and Tyler DEBATE
    Jul 10, 2024 – 01:26:28
  • The misunderstood 1990s, LA Riots, and the triumph of the Paleoconservatives with John Ganz
    Jun 26, 2024 – 01:50:50
  • Dimension Apple, Biden's Age, and Modern Tiger Parenting
    Jun 19, 2024 – 01:03:36
  • VICTIM, a hilarious new novel by Andrew Boryga. Plus Caitlin Clark takes and James by Percival Everett
    Jun 12, 2024 – 01:23:27
  • What are Children For? A talk with Anastasia Berg and Rachel Wiseman about their new book
    Jun 5, 2024 – 01:23:22
  • Biden's Disappointing Black Voter Agenda and RIP Bill Walton
    May 29, 2024 – 01:05:45
Recent Reviews
  • Venkman '84
    I don’t even disagree with them necessarily
    It’s just that they’re pundit-brained blowhards who (by their own admission) spend way too much time on what used to be Twitter. If you like warmed-over bluesky hivemind, I have to assume you could at least get it from someone with a touch of charisma
  • Mwood95
    Half way there
    One host on this podcast is relatable, charming and insightful and the other would really like you to know he works on "Existential Risk" whatever make-work garbage that is.
  • Andrew 6188
    Sharp decline; bring back contrasting hosts!
    I've listened to this podcast since its start in 2020. Jay's spicy, counter-intuitive, (sometimes slightly reactionary) POV contrasted nicely with Andy's orthodox Marxism and Tammy's deep smarts and humanism. Jay was the splash of hot sauce that made the whole dish sing. But now it's all overbearing spice without any of the former substance. Two male hosts with similarly "edgy" vibes echoing each other's tossed-off takes. Little prep, even less deep knowledge. Without someone like Tammy balancing it out, it's become too spicy, too one-note, and too knee-jerk reactionary. After many years, I'm sending this dish back to the kitchen.
  • Timbuck 2 Mars
    Downhill
    I used to listen to every episode to hear a different take from my own pretty leftist perspective, but these guys have become unlistenable. The arrogance dripping off every episode from people way too willing to talk and talk about things about which they know very little is probably actually detrimental to the brain. Instead of forming opinions off the comments of some overconfident bros they know, they should consider speaking to actual professionals in specialties they may not even know exist.
  • mp677
    New cohost plz
    I have listened to just about every episode of this podcast. It used to be so good but unfortunately I cannot listen to it anymore because of Tyler. I’m sure he’s a really smart, nice guy but he’s not a good podcaster. He’s awkward and uncharismatic and his inclusion has really taken the show away from the original show. I think the dynamic between him and Jay is strained at times and they don’t bring out the interesting insights that came from him and Tammy.
  • Josh o-r
    Female cohost desperately needed
    Long time listener who greatly missed Tammy and finds the current iteration of the podcast nearly unlistenable because of its now overwhelmingly masculine energy. By which I mean: a tendency to relentless prognostication; broad sweeping claims backed by little evidence; a tendency to speak with absolute certainty well beyond one’s domain expertise (in what world do a New Yorker politics writer and three professors have meaningful real-world experience by which to judge what would be politically efficacious?). I have nothing against Tyler, but I feel the show changed for the worse when Tammy left.
  • Bbbeauideal
    Michael Chabon wrote John Carter lol
    Free Mary Shawn
  • Holly_5377335
    It’s fine
    These are middle-aged men who sound like me as a teenager, so afraid of anyone thinking they are basic. Sometimes entertaining but they need to stop trying so hard to be cool
  • Eagle884
    A great show from 2020-2023
    This show has slowly gone from 2/3 normal non-terminally online take addicts to 0/2. If you want a worse Pod Save America hosted by two Steven A. Smith wannabees whose greatest QoL improvement would be Twitter IP bans, listen to the current show. Otherwise, check out the backlog/wait until Jay can find another co-host to keep him in check.
  • Can't get a car2go
    Ok
    Thankful for some of the more informed and thoughtful guests on the show. (like Vincent Bevins), but it can get really tiring to listen to Jay and Tyler constantly spew uninformed and unsubstantiated vibes-based takes. They’re also constantly preoccupied with categorizing themselves as “on the left,” but typically just mock anyone to the left of the NYT – some self awareness is missing for these two “leftists”
  • Kmdch
    Tammy and Andy for VP
    Actually listened to the entire episode to understand if the Rogan thing was a joke. Not a joke. Honestly feel like I was going crazy at the end. Really sad the direction this pod took. Jay’s takes used to be interesting and useful. Lately it’s been a bunch of unprepared and uninformed nonsense.
  • Left Plain
    Tyler Austin Harper: Midwit
    You cannot imagine a bigger downgrade than going from Andy B. Liu to Tyler Austin Harper.
  • Mthreegan
    Fun show
    Tammy and Jay cover topics most media does not and with more nuance. The recent polyamory episode was weird: polyamory is basically mainstream in queer communities and with it is a focus on communication, honesty and non-hierarchical structures. It’s rooted in politics! I think what you’re actually annoyed with it bourgeois people co-opting polyamory and making it about personal growth. I mean, what did you expect?
  • congund
    Jay is washed
    You should do an episode that isn’t about your resentments in left lib media sometime soon. Would be a nice change of pace.
  • zooosst
    One of the best out there
    Tammy and Jay are a joy to listen to. Thanks for all of your educational, entertaining content all these years!
  • JoeBaskin1986
    This Podcast rocks!
    A wonderful podcast with nuanced and insightful opinions from the left.
  • allthenicknamesaretaken:(
    Pro-banter
    Great range of topics and guests. But please don't stop the banter!
  • danger moose
    Love the content
    But the audio is so bad. I turn up the volume when one of them is talking and the next person comes through so loud. One of them talks into his shirt I swear. I've stopped listening to many episodes simply because I can't get the volume level right.
  • SpartySal
    An enjoyable listen
    Some thoughtful perspectives that have widened my horizon. I love the hosts' chemistry and banter. They make politics more interesting because they get into issues that would matter to regular people with the added layer of what it's like to be Asian and a leftist.
  • Jar3e
    disappointed
    I thought the hosts of this podcast were relatively professional but they perpetuate false narratives and are dismissive if not willfully ignorant about valid criticisms and suggestions to correct their outlandish statements.
  • ______nikki________
    Love.
    I have a dwindling list of enjoyments as of late, but this podcast is something I wait for and devour. It is incredible. Thank you
  • Fidelio#9
    Thoughts on the show:
    I love Andy
  • jddddddan
    good listen
    Really enjoyed this podcast! Found it thru the squid game episode and really liked the debate/critiques. Side note: I am not East Asian but I think the way Ali’s character was portrayed in the series highlighted how his class position + immigrant status enables others to continually exploit his labor and personhood.
  • AstralKorea
    Squid Game
    Interesting takes from well educated literate Asian-Americans with very little to surface level knowledge of the Hallyu Wave. Poor guy thought watching it was a chore. Squid Game is breezy compared to the works of Bela Tarr and Lav Diaz.
  • noviab
    It’s alright
    The radlib hosts are mostly entertaining, although they have a strange fantasy that the US is possible of good intervention across the globe lol. Still looking for a radical left Asian am pod
  • Oddlyepic
    Completely Disconnected from Reality
    Self loathing house Asian toothless “Progressives” regurgitating white academia. When POC talk about white adjacency these people are it. They do not center an Asian perspective at all, especially not new immigrant Asians.
  • Emery Rouette
    The one host says “no” to everything the other host says
    It’s psycho
  • SPinSP
    Nope
    As an APIDA member I really wanted to like this podcast but the point of view and opinions expressed feels so disconnected to my experience as a first generation Laotian American. If you’re looking for a podcast that gives you a sense of belonging and a voice, this may not be it.The repertoire and topics discussed between these podcasters feels more like a philosophy class... as a west coast APIDA, perhaps the east coast APIDA intellectualism is beyond my grasp....
  • kittenmuffin123
    Amazing, smart pod for Asian American progressives
    Such a good podcast; so great to hear Asian American progressives intelligently discuss topics I care about— it’s like listening to three friends way smarter than me talk about stuff I’m dying to talk about and always thinking about!
  • Srhimlee
    Intelligent, incisive, and hilarious
    I greatly appreciate the thoughtful discussions and LOVE the hilarious asides and rants. While the the three members are clearly liberal politically, the perspectives are balanced between them. So great to have intelligent thinkers cover issues from the Asian American viewpoint, especially now.
  • CodyMW2
    Most interesting listen of the week
    Goes in directions I’d never expect
  • nee jersey
    It’s good
    Interesting takes
  • Dogman_2046
    A request for “We are following the wrong dog” merch
    The different perspectives and personalities of the hosts are really well balanced. The discussions are well informed, and well considered. Also I have never heard Cambodian people brought up so many times, even if it’s to point out how Asian American people are not all the same. I feel so seen B^)
  • Rotivoile
    The podcast I’ve always needed
    I’ve been looking for an Asian American space like this: smart, critical of representation politics, and providing a leftist perspective. It’s nuanced but also just a whole lot of fun. Thoughtful and joyful.
  • honeyoliv
    Omg! So informative
    Seriously a must listen to any Asian American. This pod helps me stay calm and laugh and think seriously at the same time.
  • Shrike23432
    So good
    Love the show, learning so much every episode. My only feedback is to save 2 or 3 minutes of the show for NBA takes from Jay and Andy. Keep up the great work!!
  • COBri15
    Please improve audio!
    This podcast is great, but the audio quality makes it hard to hear sometimes. My two suggestions would be better mics and maybe shorten/focus episodes. Otherwise would highly recommend for the thought provoking social/political commentary.
  • DLG-appleUser
    Great analysis & rapport
    The newest in my heavy rotation - love the 3 different hosts’ styles, and they’re all funny and thoughtful in their own way. As a white person I feel like I get a good window into conversations that aren’t necessarily happening in my direct circles. Bravo!!
  • storyboredmeg
    I came for the Kang takes, I stayed for the great conversations
    Just adding my own “new favorite podcast” review. I really appreciate these conversations, nuanced considerations and analysis, and also, jokes.
  • acridinium
    Whoever gave this podcast one star is dumb
    The title says it all
  • Colasante23
    New Favorite Podcast
    I never write reviews of podcasts, but I’ve become such a big fan of Time to Say Goodbye that I felt compelled to do so because I hope more people check this out. Great hosts, and every episode is filled with fun, smart, and thoughtful conversation from a leftist perspective.
  • DanielJin
    Hot takes and warm feelings
    Kang’s takes are hotter than ever! Appreciate the work being done by the hosts to open dialogues for Asians who connect with and relate to the things you feel passionate about.
  • zzzger
    Great pod
    I subscribed to the podcast after reading Jay’s piece about Tou Thao and the Myth of Asian American solidarity. As a Hmong-American- I really appreciated his take. The pod is excellent so far. Def recommend subscribing!
  • Dr. G from Honolulu
    An engaging perspective
    Refreshing to hear from an Asian American perspective (and this is coming from a white guy living in Hawaii). The historical and journalistic backgrounds of the hosts lend weight to their arguments and allow me to see things more clearly from that vantage point. I look forward to hearing more.
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